Comments on: Mother of all Tax Increases http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/ Participative Journalism in a Local Treeless Newspaper Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:24:54 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michael Fogelsanger http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1387 Michael Fogelsanger Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:39:12 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1387 I think we need to go to ALL these local meetings and read the Declaration of Independence, that should be the starting point. Next we need hundreds of people to show up with pitch forks (if needed) to remind the politicians our Founding Fathers threw out the largest military force of the time. If that does not get their attention then I guesss we will be doomed to repeat history as many Americans are taxed out, and feed up with corruption, and special interest groups getting rich off of our tax dollars. I think we need to go to ALL these local meetings and read the Declaration of Independence, that should be the starting point. Next we need hundreds of people to show up with pitch forks (if needed) to remind the politicians our Founding Fathers threw out the largest military force of the time. If that does not get their attention then I guesss we will be doomed to repeat history as many Americans are taxed out, and feed up with corruption, and special interest groups getting rich off of our tax dollars.

]]> By: Kay Shelton http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1275 Kay Shelton Thu, 07 May 2009 02:36:55 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1275 I think Ivan is correct. Right now, we pay taxes on the 'things,' for lack of a better word. If this tax increase happens, then we will be taxed on all the things as well as all of the labor that takes place to install those things. I think Ivan is correct. Right now, we pay taxes on the ‘things,’ for lack of a better word. If this tax increase happens, then we will be taxed on all the things as well as all of the labor that takes place to install those things.

]]> By: Ivan Krpan http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1272 Ivan Krpan Wed, 06 May 2009 21:25:58 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1272 Not the same Jon, I am actually charged by each of these mentioned with a bill for the labor and materials. You do not have labor being attached by that supplier of that part. A builder is hiring a company to provide materials and the labor to apply or install that material. As I see it, if this bill becomes law, I will be charged a sales tax on labor from each of the subcontractors mentioned. Not the same Jon, I am actually charged by each of these mentioned with a bill for the labor and materials. You do not have labor being attached by that supplier of that part. A builder is hiring a company to provide materials and the labor to apply or install that material. As I see it, if this bill becomes law, I will be charged a sales tax on labor from each of the subcontractors mentioned.

]]> By: Jon Bockman http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1266 Jon Bockman Tue, 05 May 2009 02:55:04 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1266 Ivan it's possible that all labor in building a home "Architect, surveyor, excavator, concrete man, waterproofing guy, tile installer, framers, roofers, siding men, bricklayers, plumber, electrician, heating and A/C guys, insulator, fireplace installer, central vac installer, drywaller, painter and stainer, stair installer, flooring and carpeting installation, trimmer, cabinet installer, garage door installer, mirror installation, shower door installation, closet shelving installation, appliance installation, landscaper for installation, blacktop company for driveway,and even the curtain installer" is like when I purchase a part for a vehicle. Since I'm the final sale of that part now it get taxed, nothing is taxed from the manufacture down to the wholesaler. Ivan it’s possible that all labor in building a home “Architect, surveyor, excavator, concrete man, waterproofing guy, tile installer, framers, roofers, siding men, bricklayers, plumber, electrician, heating and A/C guys, insulator, fireplace installer, central vac installer, drywaller, painter and stainer, stair installer, flooring and carpeting installation, trimmer, cabinet installer, garage door installer, mirror installation, shower door installation, closet shelving installation, appliance installation, landscaper for installation, blacktop company for driveway,and even the curtain installer” is like when I purchase a part for a vehicle. Since I’m the final sale of that part now it get taxed, nothing is taxed from the manufacture down to the wholesaler.

]]> By: Kerry Mellott http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1227 Kerry Mellott Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:28:18 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1227 Did anyone get Rep. Pritchard's or Sen. Burzynski's view on this bill? I notice the bill (SB750) is currently in the Senate Education committee consisting of 7 tax and spend democrats but only 4 republicans. Doesn't sound like a good match up to me. TIME WARP: Does anyone else remember as I do that labor was taxed for a short while in the late '60s? One of my first jobs was in a mechanical shop and we were told to charge sales tax on service, but only for a short time. I think the 'labor tax' was overturned about as fast as it was instituted. Don't remember the exact details, though. Maybe there are some court decisions from back then to look at? In any event, another example of how the tax and spend crowd running this state (and frequently the local scene, too) is doing everything they can to run responsible and productive people (and businesses) right out of Illinois! And what about some form of linkage reducing property tax if this bill passes? I don't suppose that's in there...but I'll have to finish reading the entire 239 pages to find out! What a mess! Did anyone get Rep. Pritchard’s or Sen. Burzynski’s view on this bill? I notice the bill (SB750) is currently in the Senate Education committee consisting of 7 tax and spend democrats but only 4 republicans. Doesn’t sound like a good match up to me. TIME WARP: Does anyone else remember as I do that labor was taxed for a short while in the late ’60s? One of my first jobs was in a mechanical shop and we were told to charge sales tax on service, but only for a short time. I think the ‘labor tax’ was overturned about as fast as it was instituted. Don’t remember the exact details, though. Maybe there are some court decisions from back then to look at? In any event, another example of how the tax and spend crowd running this state (and frequently the local scene, too) is doing everything they can to run responsible and productive people (and businesses) right out of Illinois! And what about some form of linkage reducing property tax if this bill passes? I don’t suppose that’s in there…but I’ll have to finish reading the entire 239 pages to find out! What a mess!

]]> By: Ivan Krpan http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1202 Ivan Krpan Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:07:19 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1202 Mac, this just doesn't seem to be a bill that is going to be stoppable. No one seems to take it seriously but you know what, this is the kind of a tax that will put my business out of business. When I build a home or remodel a home or just fix a door for a customer, I'll have to now add a sales tax for the labor that project has incurred. Think about the cost of a home now, look who is going to have to charge a sales tax on that home that never did before this bill. Architect, surveyor, excavator, concrete man, waterproofing guy, tile installer, framers, roofers, siding men, bricklayers, plumber, electrician, heating and A/C guys, insulator, fireplace installer, central vac installer, drywaller, painter and stainer, stair installer, flooring and carpeting installation, trimmer, cabinet installer, garage door installer, mirror installation, shower door installation, closet shelving installation, appliance installation, landscaper for installation, blacktop company for driveway,and even the curtain installer. This is going to be a major increase in homes to be built along with many communties now adopting the new energy codes which require taller seated trusses for more insulation over exterior walls and 2x6 exterior walls for more insulation (average cost per average home is about $6,000 to $7,000.00 and now figure the additional sales tax for labor to easily add another $7,000 to $9,000.00 not even figuring the additional sales tax increased for goods lately and the ever increasing prices of material, permits and of course the impact fees. I'd say if you are looking for a new home, better buy one that's built, you really don't realize how good of a deal there is out there today. Mac, this just doesn’t seem to be a bill that is going to be stoppable. No one seems to take it seriously but you know what, this is the kind of a tax that will put my business out of business.

When I build a home or remodel a home or just fix a door for a customer, I’ll have to now add a sales tax for the labor that project has incurred. Think about the cost of a home now, look who is going to have to charge a sales tax on that home that never did before this bill. Architect, surveyor, excavator, concrete man, waterproofing guy, tile installer, framers, roofers, siding men, bricklayers, plumber, electrician, heating and A/C guys, insulator, fireplace installer, central vac installer, drywaller, painter and stainer, stair installer, flooring and carpeting installation, trimmer, cabinet installer, garage door installer, mirror installation, shower door installation, closet shelving installation, appliance installation, landscaper for installation, blacktop company for driveway,and even the curtain installer.

This is going to be a major increase in homes to be built along with many communties now adopting the new energy codes which require taller seated trusses for more insulation over exterior walls and 2×6 exterior walls for more insulation (average cost per average home is about $6,000 to $7,000.00 and now figure the additional sales tax for labor to easily add another $7,000 to $9,000.00 not even figuring the additional sales tax increased for goods lately and the ever increasing prices of material, permits and of course the impact fees.

I’d say if you are looking for a new home, better buy one that’s built, you really don’t realize how good of a deal there is out there today.

]]> By: Mac McIntyre http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 Mac McIntyre Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:56:47 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1172 It seems that New York is tops among at least 10 other states considering major tax hikes, including Oregon, <strong>Illinois</strong>, Wisconsin, Washington, Arizona and New Jersey. The federal "stimulus" bill was sold as necessary to help states prevent such tax increases. <blockquote>Instead, the state politicians are pocketing the federal cash to maintain spending, and raising taxes anyway. Just another spend-and-tax bait and switch.</blockquote> More from the <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123940286075109617.html" rel="nofollow">Wall Street Journal</a>... It seems that New York is tops among at least 10 other states considering major tax hikes, including Oregon, Illinois, Wisconsin, Washington, Arizona and New Jersey.

The federal “stimulus” bill was sold as necessary to help states prevent such tax increases.

Instead, the state politicians are pocketing the federal cash to maintain spending, and raising taxes anyway. Just another spend-and-tax bait and switch.

More from the Wall Street Journal…

]]> By: Mac McIntyre http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Mac McIntyre Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:16:52 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-1160 4/3/2009..Senate Rule 2-10 Third Reading Deadline Established As April 30, 2009 Silence will be costly. 4/3/2009..Senate Rule 2-10 Third Reading Deadline Established As April 30, 2009

Silence will be costly.

]]> By: Kay Shelton http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-967 Kay Shelton Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:17:04 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-967 Silly Max, TIF money comes from the Magic Pixies (not related to the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny). It is not real money from real people. ;-) Silly Max, TIF money comes from the Magic Pixies (not related to the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny). It is not real money from real people. ;-)

]]> By: Max http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/index.php/2009/03/mother-of-all-tax-increases/comment-page-1/#comment-867 Max Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:31:04 +0000 http://www.dekalbcounty-il.com/?p=674#comment-867 And, if we’re dipping into the general fund for any of the following (http://www.illinois-tif.com/about_TIF.asp) such as streets and san within that area then how are we not mugging Peter to pay Paul? And, if we’re dipping into the general fund for any of the following (http://www.illinois-tif.com/about_TIF.asp) such as streets and san within that area then how are we not mugging Peter to pay Paul?

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